Quote from Steven on January 28, 2010, 19:34
Well, the first Terminator story was stolen from the works of Harlan Ellison. New prints of the film acknowledge him after Cameron lost a court battle over the issue. For that film, Cameron was riding on the back of a truly superior writer…
Terminator 2 was essentially a remake of the first film, but as Cameron originally wanted Lance Henrikson as the Terminator, and Arnold as Kyle Reece in the first film, they tried that out in T2. Robert Patrick obviously got the role instead of Lance for the sequel. So the first two films rode on the ideas of Ellison, so obviously they would hold up…
Cameron simply didn’t have any idea as to what to do next for the Terminator franchise(LOL, after being sued for the first film, and T2 was technically a remake of his own film, he had nowhere to go after that!), so he put an end to it.
As for the last film, it was more original than the first three! It took the next logical step and went into the war torn future, and I thought it was second only to the first film. My only problem with T4 was that I felt I was watching a heavily cut version of the film.
I’m very glad to hear there is a director’s cut of Salvation, but on Blu-Ray only…grrr. So wanted to see it!
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I really want to compliment what you are saying but i want to say that Cameron atleast got that persons story and theme to the screen like no one ever has been able 2
Robert Patrick DID SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB! he is ver underrated , he made A REAL contestant to Arnolds mascular build and handsome face feutures. THEY BOTH looked somewhat the same as robots should and they both very VERY intuned into the temrinator roles! I think that Lance has alot of the same qualities facially and he would also have been an incredible choise.
As far as T4 goes i really beg you to watch it with hawk eyes and you will see the movie has ALOT of mistakes, not blooper mistakes like all movies have but they create real gaps in alot of things , things that suddenly make no sense to place, people, time ..etc I almost wish i could watch it with you and point out to you where the movie really goes suddenly for “a steoritypical sollution” then tries to pop you back in by force the two last minutes and as a bonus they give you digitalized arnold WHICH TO ME is the best part of the end.
ALL IN ALL t4 has been the best of the ones after t2 and the ideas ahve been noble BUT MOSTLY i am happy WE ARE MOVING ON , into the real war and as a child i always imagined that such a movie would be HUGE and it is .. it depends on if people still think of terminator-like future wars.
I certainly always like hte idea ot kill robots because they are not human or alive we have all right to kill them atelast if they are hostile like in Terminator!
I have the game on my pc i havent had time to play it BUT ITS JUST SO AWESOME TO KILL TERMINATORS!
arnold said people like T2 because it is emotion less and gets the job done.
but as i child i liked Terminator 800 becuase he reminded me of my dad , and infact i tought it was very toughtfull as he was gentle with Oconnor . i think that T800 is a dad figure for john and you feel it and i think its a true magic .. like whe he smiled to john when he got the minigun . I dont htink of t800 as a killing machine wihtout any condition , i really believe that arnold and cameron managed to show that humanity is not in having motionts or crying but it is in protecting and loving , in many ways t800 was loving and sacrificing without really doing it in a human way but in a humane way…
remmember Kyle says , I LOVE THIS people dont make this one of the bigeset lines in terminator he say ssomething like “its programmed to kill and it will not stop untill it has fulfilled its programm”
and in the same way much more magical way T800 in T2 shows that its “programmed to save and protect john o connor ” and its equally OR EVEN MORE so imperssing when its programmed like that. AND THIS IS why i am dissapointed in T3 one of the reasons because T800 doe snot come across as a hero , he is like some spare tire or something that falls into the sceenes now and then.. besides they had putt so much stuff on arnold that arnold di not even look like himself.
alot of the plot in t3 was bogus and extra too much and there were as i mentioned too much focus on action, there were also too many lines and ideas that were OVER OBVOUS but they still putt it on us.