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Boone
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Post Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 27, 2010, 19:11

Finished this in my garage this afternoon. Although smooth(I hope!), don’t even ask me what the hell the mannequin is supposed to be doing!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEErrCczdA[/youtube]

Sa-achi Seishou
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 27, 2010, 20:28

This is awesome!

you know what? i hav ebeen watching youtube on a little Terminator and termiantor 2

however remmember a good movie is all about story and camer presntation

i know alot of movies who hav great story or grat camera or too much style and wouldt work .

I like to say to anyone that evil dead 1 is one of the best B movies and it was underrated too bad it becam mor and more into a comedy franchise.

Boone
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 27, 2010, 22:16

Oh I absolutely adore the evil dead movies – Army of Darkness has in stitches every time I watch it.

I love Terminator 1 so much. Definitely his best film.

Sa-achi Seishou
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 28, 2010, 18:37

I think temrinator became so good because it was ment to be type of
thriller/horror movie at first and was not really an action film it wasnt untill terminator 2 was finished where people (because of the time) and the nature of T2 stopped looking at robots as a threat , the mainstream idea of a mosnter was already changed before T2

T2 still held the thriller/horror factor with T1000 the enemy robot and the HOT intruth it was a hot issue about APOCALYPSE and would it be robots? or not?
it was more then a movie or just a sequel to a cyber-terror/horror movie
IN ADDITION to all this TERMINATOR 2 HAD EXCELLENT everything which i have hardly seen ever since.
These were in my opinion things that made Terminator 2 legendary and almost memorable for centuries to come.

What happened after this which was not so good was that the later temrinator movies were associated more to action scifi movie instead of being a seroius ,thriller/horror/cyberfi movie . You dont see that personal connection to the people in these movies and the action is exadurated since that is the point of the movie and not the true story behind it.

What we had with the last terminaator movie was someone trying to go back to the old formula but failing miserably , for instance :
there is htis women who comes into the story who is almost indestructible also she is unrealistically happy and tough , it totally threw me out of hte story , obvously this was to ironically make hte story about “love” etsc typcally american approach to fill in the movie ..AND TRUST ME the movie did not need anything like that at all , had they not putt that women character in who DID absolutely NOT fitt in into the reality of the T4 world … there were even alot of other scenes that were almost garbage judgying by the meaning of the scenes , they were meaningless just scenes to fill in some gaps … for instance there is tha time they find the people village and this old women and exactly right after that this huge robot comes and everything is chaos, it sounds good but it looks just stupid and random.

Boone
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 28, 2010, 19:34

Well, the first Terminator story was stolen from the works of Harlan Ellison. New prints of the film acknowledge him after Cameron lost a court battle over the issue. For that film, Cameron was riding on the back of a truly superior writer…

Terminator 2 was essentially a remake of the first film, but as Cameron originally wanted Lance Henrikson as the Terminator, and Arnold as Kyle Reece in the first film, they tried that out in T2. Robert Patrick obviously got the role instead of Lance for the sequel. So the first two films rode on the ideas of Ellison, so obviously they would hold up…

Cameron simply didn’t have any idea as to what to do next for the Terminator franchise(LOL, after being sued for the first film, and T2 was technically a remake of his own film, he had nowhere to go after that!), so he put an end to it.

As for the last film, it was more original than the first three! It took the next logical step and went into the war torn future, and I thought it was second only to the first film. My only problem with T4 was that I felt I was watching a heavily cut version of the film.

I’m very glad to hear there is a director’s cut of Salvation, but on Blu-Ray only…grrr. So wanted to see it!

Boone
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 28, 2010, 19:35

Thinking of doing another animation tomorrow night. Going to keep the animation simple, and use slightly brighter lighting…

Sa-achi Seishou
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 28, 2010, 22:25

Quote from Steven on January 28, 2010, 19:34
Well, the first Terminator story was stolen from the works of Harlan Ellison. New prints of the film acknowledge him after Cameron lost a court battle over the issue. For that film, Cameron was riding on the back of a truly superior writer…

Terminator 2 was essentially a remake of the first film, but as Cameron originally wanted Lance Henrikson as the Terminator, and Arnold as Kyle Reece in the first film, they tried that out in T2. Robert Patrick obviously got the role instead of Lance for the sequel. So the first two films rode on the ideas of Ellison, so obviously they would hold up…

Cameron simply didn’t have any idea as to what to do next for the Terminator franchise(LOL, after being sued for the first film, and T2 was technically a remake of his own film, he had nowhere to go after that!), so he put an end to it.

As for the last film, it was more original than the first three! It took the next logical step and went into the war torn future, and I thought it was second only to the first film. My only problem with T4 was that I felt I was watching a heavily cut version of the film.

I’m very glad to hear there is a director’s cut of Salvation, but on Blu-Ray only…grrr. So wanted to see it!

END OF QUOTE

I really want to compliment what you are saying but i want to say that Cameron atleast got that persons story and theme to the screen like no one ever has been able 2

Robert Patrick DID SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB! he is ver underrated , he made A REAL contestant to Arnolds mascular build and handsome face feutures. THEY BOTH looked somewhat the same as robots should and they both very VERY intuned into the temrinator roles! I think that Lance has alot of the same qualities facially and he would also have been an incredible choise.

As far as T4 goes i really beg you to watch it with hawk eyes and you will see the movie has ALOT of mistakes, not blooper mistakes like all movies have but they create real gaps in alot of things , things that suddenly make no sense to place, people, time ..etc I almost wish i could watch it with you and point out to you where the movie really goes suddenly for “a steoritypical sollution” then tries to pop you back in by force the two last minutes and as a bonus they give you digitalized arnold WHICH TO ME is the best part of the end.

ALL IN ALL t4 has been the best of the ones after t2 and the ideas ahve been noble BUT MOSTLY i am happy WE ARE MOVING ON , into the real war and as a child i always imagined that such a movie would be HUGE and it is .. it depends on if people still think of terminator-like future wars.
I certainly always like hte idea ot kill robots because they are not human or alive we have all right to kill them atelast if they are hostile like in Terminator!

I have the game on my pc i havent had time to play it BUT ITS JUST SO AWESOME TO KILL TERMINATORS!

arnold said people like T2 because it is emotion less and gets the job done.
but as i child i liked Terminator 800 becuase he reminded me of my dad , and infact i tought it was very toughtfull as he was gentle with Oconnor . i think that T800 is a dad figure for john and you feel it and i think its a true magic .. like whe he smiled to john when he got the minigun . I dont htink of t800 as a killing machine wihtout any condition , i really believe that arnold and cameron managed to show that humanity is not in having motionts or crying but it is in protecting and loving , in many ways t800 was loving and sacrificing without really doing it in a human way but in a humane way…

remmember Kyle says , I LOVE THIS people dont make this one of the bigeset lines in terminator he say ssomething like “its programmed to kill and it will not stop untill it has fulfilled its programm”
and in the same way much more magical way T800 in T2 shows that its “programmed to save and protect john o connor ” and its equally OR EVEN MORE so imperssing when its programmed like that. AND THIS IS why i am dissapointed in T3 one of the reasons because T800 doe snot come across as a hero , he is like some spare tire or something that falls into the sceenes now and then.. besides they had putt so much stuff on arnold that arnold di not even look like himself.

alot of the plot in t3 was bogus and extra too much and there were as i mentioned too much focus on action, there were also too many lines and ideas that were OVER OBVOUS but they still putt it on us.

Boone
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 29, 2010, 18:10

Well, even Harlon Ellison said in an interview “I was pleased with how he took my story and made a great film with it, but all he had to do was ask – not take.”. And Harlon had good cause to sue him – Cameron was telling people on set(some of whom knew Harlon!) where he got the ideas from! Jesus, the man does let himself in for it!

But to be honest, I do like his films(I’ll just forget Avatar ever existed!) and his knowledge and skill in film making. The only thing that irks me is when people say Cameron is a highly imaginative person, when in reality he has just sat and took ideas from other peoples books and films. I can just about stomach a thief in the Hollywood business(they’re all at it!), but certainly not one who brags about it…

LOL, I recently had a conversation over Avatar, and they were informing me that I was an idiot for not liking it. When I asked them “seriously, what was it about?” they came out with all this bullshit about the blue people representing Hindu stuff etc and all that “clever stuff”. Then I just said “read Call Me Joe…and don’t forget to checkout the book’s front cover.”…

Boone
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 29, 2010, 19:18

But Hollywood aside(its just a film) and getting back on topic, I didn’t get chance to do any more stop motion today as the weather has turned bloody cold!

Been looking at ideas from articles on the internet and found a very large wooden mock up of the “Cain monster” from Robocop 2. Also, there was a rare commercial for Metroid 2:”Return of Samus” for the original Gameboy, which had a stop motion Samus Aran.

I am a huge fan of both and would like to do something inspired as a result. Just a bit concerned the huge powersuit/robot thing is done quite a lot these days…

Sa-achi Seishou
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Post Re: Stop Motion animation tests(on going)
on: January 29, 2010, 22:39

Quote from Steven on January 29, 2010, 19:18
But Hollywood aside(its just a film) and getting back on topic, I didn’t get chance to do any more stop motion today as the weather has turned bloody cold!

Been looking at ideas from articles on the internet and found a very large wooden mock up of the “Cain monster” from Robocop 2. Also, there was a rare commercial for Metroid 2:”Return of Samus” for the original Gameboy, which had a stop motion Samus Aran.

I am a huge fan of both and would like to do something inspired as a result. Just a bit concerned the huge powersuit/robot thing is done quite a lot these days…

Well its just not only hollywood it is something that inspires you.

Wat i wanted to say was that you inspired me because it reminded me of terminator 1.

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